billing – Anesthesia Guidebook

I caught up with Tracy Young, CRNA, MBA & CEO of YPS Anesthesia Services in Houston back in November 2019 to talk about the business of anesthesia.

Tracy is one of the most sought-after experts on the business of anesthesia not just at CRNA conferences but throughout the healthcare management & business industry.

In this episode we discuss a broad range of topics including anesthesia billing & staffing models, trends in reimbursement, differences between W2 & 1099 work, advice for establishing your first anesthesia staffing contract, how to succeed both in your career as an anesthesia clinician and how to transition into the business of anesthesia, how to maintain balance & wellbeing over the course of your career and other key insights.

Tracy covers the origin and mission of his business, YPS Anesthesia Services, which at the time of this interview (8 December 2019) supports over 450 anesthesia providers to staff over 60 endoscopy & ambulatory surgery centers and hospitals across seven states in the United States.

Tracy Young, CRNA, MBA, CEO of YPS Anesthesia Services

Tracy Young earned his Master of Science in Anesthesia (MSNA) from Texas Wesleyan University in 2000, found YPS Anesthesia Services in 2003 and went on to earn a Master in Business Administration (MBA) from George Washington University in 2008.

Leading YPS Anesthesia Services for nearly 20 years has provided Tracy a wealth of first hand experience in the anesthesia and healthcare business world. He enjoys giving back to the anesthesia community through teaching on business related issues for SRNAs at several anesthesia programs and for CRNAs through private conferences across the United States. Tracy also enjoys developing venture capital opportunities with both businesses in and out of healthcare. Tracy has been a long-time active member of the Louisiana State Association of Nurse Anesthetists, serving 2-terms as the president of the association.

All of this experience, coupled with Tracy’s easy-going Louisiana style, makes him one of the most sought-after expert presenters on the business of anesthesia. His presentations on business related topics are really some of the best I’ve heard. The power behind his talks comes from his deep personal knowledge coupled with an ability to communicate the relevance of business topics to practicing clinicians, both those working in employed W2 settings and those working in 1099 practices. But it’s not just this deep knowledge and keen teaching ability that Tracy brings to his talks. Perhaps the most powerful aspect of his ability to communicate is his character & integrity and emphasis on professionalism as a key to success in business.

Tracy often talks about the 3 A’s of Anesthesia.

The Three A’s of Anesthesia:

Amicable + Affable + Available

He encourages providers to understand that you’re in the service industry and your clients are diverse: it’s not just the patients, but the surgeons, the OR nurses & techs, the hospital administration and other staff. You’re in a service-oriented industry and embracing a positive attitude (being amicable & affable) while being available and supporting the delivery of efficient, high quality anesthesia care are critical aspects of developing a successful anesthesia practice or business.

I’m so glad you’ve found this podcast… it’s just an amazing conversation and I think you’re really going to enjoy it.

If you want to hear more from Tracy Young, I’ve linked in the show notes to another interview he did on the business of anesthesia with podcast host Jason Duprat of the Healthcare Entrepreneur Academy.

I should also mention, if it’s not obvious already, that Tracy is always recruiting physician anesthesiologists & CRNAs to join one of his many clinical sites or expand into new contracts. So if you’re looking for a great team to join with competitive benefits & compensation and flexible work schedules, be sure to drop them a line on their website at YPSAnesthesia.com.

Quotable moments:

“Some days you’re the bug & some days you’re the windshield.” – Tracy Young

“Trust takes a long time to build – 6 months, a year, multiple years to build that trust – but it only takes 5 seconds to loose that trust by one bad decision.” – Tracy Young

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Dr Ian Hewer is the program director of Western Carolina University’s Doctor of Nursing Practice in nurse anesthesia program. At the time of this interview, Ian had been a CRNA for 20 years, was an assistant professor in WCU’s nurse anesthesia program, held two master’s degrees – one in sociology, the other in anesthesia – and was enrolled in his PhD program at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte. His PhD is in Health Services Research and the focus of his dissertation was economics & billing practices in anesthesiology.

I originally recorded this interview with Ian back in February of 2015 when I was still a SRNA at WCU and Ian was one of my professors and clinical preceptors.

We discuss the differences in billing models such as medical direction, medical supervision and independent practice in the United States. We talk about the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 and how TEFRA – again that’s the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act – requirements influence reimbursement and anesthesia practices. We go over opt out and what that means – how in nearly half of all states, CRNAs are not required to have supervision by any physician, podiatrist or dentist in order to bill directly for their services. We discuss how market forces such as an evolving payor mix can influence decisions on billing models and practice structure for anesthesia groups, hospitals and individual providers. We talk about the challenge of studying big data in establishing differences in quality outcomes between CRNAs and physician anesthesiologists. We also discuss the future of anesthesia economics and concrete steps healthcare organizations and providers can take to lower costs and maximize efficiency while maintaining high quality outcomes.

If you want the inside scoop on economics in anesthesiology, start with this podcast.

I’ll also mention here that Western Carolina University is likely opening their bridge program for Master’s prepared CRNAs to obtain their DNP in the summer of 2022. So if any of you master’s prepared CRNAs out there are looking for DNP programs, keep WCU on your radar.

Resources:

Lewis SR, Nicholson A, Smith AF, Alderson P. Physician anaesthetists versus non-physician providers of anaesthesia for surgical patients. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2014, Issue 7. Art. No.: CD010357. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD010357.pub2

Hewer, I. (2018). ANESTHESIA CARE TEAM TYPE AND HOSPITAL CHARACTERISTICS: ARE INCREASED LEVELS OF SUPERVISION ASSOCIATED WITH DIFFERENT ACUITIES AND OUTCOMES?. (Thesis). University of North Carolina at Charlotte. Retrieved from https://repository.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/etd%3A1088

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